5 cents to market their calendar for the two biggest fights in years and who better to break them down an ESPN's boxing writer Dan -- field who joins me off the bench Dan let's start of the September 17 card Las Vegas -- vicious victor Ortiz coming -- the wild slugfest with Andre cartel back in April. Which He won by unanimous decision he's been Floyd Mayweather for -- WBZ welterweight title. Ortiz is very much the -- brawler tide didn't Mayweather of course is the antithesis of that how do you see this fight shaping up.
What -- and fight for a lot of reasons because even though what is not been -- lot of competitive fights. Over the years. If you look at this there's been or certain reasons why people anger Adam victor Ortiz -- forty resume. One that He could be about ten years younger than what Mayweather. What is Google is in his mid thirties in -- and it points so it's a big difference with Romanoff of what would've been about sixteen month well since his last fight. Against us sugar Shane Mosley last year so you know anytime you're -- that relies on speed and accuracy and sort of rhythm. You're not in the ring very often that's the that's something that's sort of party dip back. Until -- form in the fight but of course you know Republican Mayweather never lost used dominant it was every opponent ever faced. And you know victor as you know we got about the win against October April two win the belt but He has. He got dropped two times and you know He has lost -- force of their reasons I don't -- Both guys but obviously the Paper because he's one of the great -- work.
Now you said flights give up ten years to Ortiz He did show signs early elegant Shane Mosley that He -- get around a little bit does Ortiz need to make it pressure fight early He -- he's gonna have a chance.
Well obviously has betrayed the fight it is it's going to be used musicality is punching power. He stuck -- out box with Mayweather and -- good boxer would not -- that level. So yeah I think the pressure. Is important but that that's I think every single fighters that has ever faced with Mayweather. Some of them have ever been remotely close to being able to help auctions of the idea for them when would be to try to apply pressure. And -- real strong point just victors going to be in the table with all the other ports closed -- of what is it.
Now you said Ortiz did have two losses the most memorable one of was sent victim my daughter Marcus my Donna rather in which He pretty much quit the middle of the fight. Floyd's donors liking to be LA exploit those sort of things strategically CI -- ramp that up are ready in the in the in the -- stages.
Well one thing about what is you know CC is. A guy that is very good at adjusting during the course of -- He sees one thing that's working perhaps a little bit for his opponent yet -- usually -- way to counteract. And I don't expect to see a lot of different and that whatever -- throws at him. Generally Floyd. That in the past -- it was just that I don't know why don't be any different the question is is -- gonna have that. That sharpness that he's -- you know you might not -- because of a long way off. But -- one thing that is interesting to me and you know what do you agree -- to a thirty day. Waiting in the WBZ mandates that the fighters. Check their weight there it is part of the budget to make sure that there. We minister in the -- so you know losing access about weight so quickly so despite that there are having them on the 47 pound welterweight limit. They did their thirty -- This week. What they -- there was -- him for counsel he's not there's no issue about week hear about the to expect there would be deported if you basically we were you know what we've in the fight so it is right now. It's all about boxing it's about it and sharp and get the game planned out and victor you know with the big guys that struggled to make under four pounds. He's fighting now what 47 what you did against -- over despite noted that -- He was well within the limits of the WBZ set but He was still has like temple posts ago which is quite a bit more. Then just two pounds which could basically be. Can afford it and daughter --
ESPN by surrendered -- you'll join me off the bench you can follow him on Twitter Dan -- feel ESPN of course the second big fight comes November 12 at the MGM grand. Manny Pacquiao and Juan Manuel Marquez third time they're fighting this -- a 144 pound catch weight. The last time they fought and was in 2008 can we expect this to be at all any sort of -- repeat of their prior slugfest.
Well I mean -- had a great three bytes of of the -- decade -- so I was apple they're pretty despite. Comparable immigrant side or that goes by as you know among the best that I covered. And it sort of made for each other and even though packed you know got a victory split decision victory -- there always fight for -- lightweight title. But it was a draw the first place but -- old world 547. For the featherweight title. But you can certainly make the argument so -- it was 101 against Marquez was giving him the best fights he's had been to one -- there Brown's book. You can definitely an argument that one -- has won both -- now I thought you vote fights and I certainly was not alone among the ringside reporters covering events. Now the question is can mark has been that effective. That he's moving up and wait again to fight him and of course Marquez is -- the most tragic news of late thirties have -- worse. What you just gonna get the feeling that they're made for each other and that Al resisting -- going to be and other conflicts.
Well when that many last gathering against market He was -- fighting skills kind of from that one handed slugger that He we remember -- being -- more than tactical fighter He is now I was watching the the fight -- against Margarito again last night and just seeing how He moved sell well at this point his career as opposed when He fought Marquez before they -- the point now many where He can get a definitive victory over Marquez.
So it's possible I mean I I think it does. Conventional wisdom is that he'll be a little bit too big and strong for -- as they handle. And that -- he'll probably get the narco war you know certainly clear winner in the despite. But people don't mark it up before and so. I'm not sure that your do the one thing I know is that market deserves the fight. Because of what happened in the first fight in addition to all the things work as an accomplished since those -- which is he'll win the language in which have been making. Defensive and fighting other good fighters. There are those that they didn't damages that would effectively would Mayweather went up to welterweight and you know being wiped out basically 121000. You know couple fights ago so you know there's definitely good things about the third match between actual market and they are certainly things -- that be viewed as a negative. For -- into the match up. -- certainly since they ought depth within the first minute wait the more complete fighter and He went back.
Rival -- last Friday as liquor Ramos -- to which of course was like one of 42 knocked out for for markets He produced fighting is Michael cap cities He can still think your best finds. Did up and taking out at 37. How dangerous is He did this version of Pacquiao.
These immediate dangers from the standpoint that you know was packed you know keep on point four rounds of the guy he's been competitive with them. He's been a long time champion and so -- you cannot underestimate fighters park and their desire that I think Marquez has a lot of both. And you know you can He -- it would give it -- the going gets talked against packet which you figure inevitably it will He has a deep reservoir to draw from. And acknowledge that you know what I've been there done that the guy got off the -- three times in round one. Their first by. Where a lot of -- may have stopped the fight any battle themselves back into the fight to the point where a lot of people thought -- the -- so. Keep He has that sort of confidence as -- which is important when you're fighting you'll pop guy. And the packet out you know He knows and is always like they have this -- mean my public but I hadn't the last six years so you know I got an -- vomiting.
It's more important to win their respective -- Florida -- It's it's more important which fighter tend to get to win Floyd or Manny.
Army units both -- neither one is more important they wanna fight each other. And that's the biggest -- the boxing does offer. It is 100% after the people come out victorious period of storage.
If if Floyd or Manny were to lose do you do you think we'd see either of them in the ring again.
You know that's the question I I I suspect that win or lose. -- guys would fight against just because I mean that's what they do I mean they got to the point where they are because of of there there. They're out there work ethic and and there desired to do what they do to make the money that goes with it. And I think that you have guys lose they'll still be interest in and seeing them fight other fights. And then come back and they can still earn money I mean just as the guy it was a boxing -- doesn't mean their careers are over -- it's what's going to decide to move on into other things. -- has other app other things happening in his life. There are more important -- boxing from the standpoint that -- congressman in his country He has devoted public service in the Philippines so I could see him perhaps -- with the boxing. You know let me go on and and continued my congressional group bought. -- packet spend money like it's water and there's always the world the big paycheck in the same thing would golfer of Floyd Mayweather also money so I think a loss. They did that by each other but they may signal a little while off after a loss but I would I would imagine so that they would come back and have another fight.
ESPN by writer Dan ray feels my guest on the -- the big story botching this week was the controversy around referee Russell Moore his job in the Abner Mars Joseph -- fight you of course are very critical. Of I -- there is officiating or the lack thereof are you worried that they're to be a similar situation -- the -- the Mayweather fight.
I -- I don't I don't worry about those things because it was available ambulance biggest budget doctors -- fight. Nevada hasn't generally a good crew referees I mean you have guys like Tony weeks. And and it was in particular those other developers also put those two guys in particular my -- among the very very very best in the world. Like I would be very surprised. -- at least one of those guys. Intestine main event that we heard one of those fights something I think that there -- good and about a two runs pretty tight ship and I mean. And I mean I don't Russell has taken a lot of criticism for what happened in -- back on our site. But and it's a very unfortunate really spoiled you know an excellent fight. But things happen you know hope that you can just improved a -- I mean. But I Beckel are gonna have a rematch at some point that was ordered by the idea both sides are registered it was particularly bench. And until you hate to see valid technical it was his title because the reference data mistaken -- a terrible terrible might work but it was career. But you know I don't think it's fair to hold that against -- somewhere for the rest of his life let them go off to was training to whatever is gonna do. And about a understand what happened and -- him I think they'll play an apology represented terrible Mayweather impact it was quite as well as other big time. -- quite a complicated about it.
Down major change for some very high standards for their officials are quick to act when one makes a critical mistake does -- with all its different. You know organization's incentive they have a system -- arrests were who make so many obvious mistakes like that during a fight.
Well I don't look at a specific thing but you don't believe -- the commission's particularly the big states that -- a lot of boxing in new York New Jersey. California Texas -- places like that where there's -- quite a bit of boxing they have number one. A number of qualified officials panel about and -- they take that seriously enabled that this thing injured there's a reason why would you go to certain states. You see certain rare for -- news. -- catch -- the big assignments because they're the best and even though it may not be specific. On Paper rated system the city Kuwait would be when it comes to signing. Who would be officials are going to be an NFL playoff games of Super Bowl or the World Series umpiring crew. Because they are aware of what their best.
He's the man to go to you for your flight news ESPN's boxing writer Dan -- if you'll follow him on Twitter generate fuel ESPN. -- also the live chat every Friday and espn.com. Gets underway at 9 AM Pacific time. Did in my very first -- to join me on my podcast album wasn't too dramatic for the thanks so much forgive me a few minutes. Enjoy the fights and I helping you have you back on again down the road towards Indian breakdown a year in boxing.
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There brave young ESPN boxing. Yet for -- fight him I mean it's these -- the two fights that you have Martin your calendar for pretty much the moment they get announced. Floyd Mayweather coming back from his fight we Shane Mosley looked like there are signs there of a little bit it deterioration for Mayweather at 34 and Ortiz. The big knock on him was whether or not after the my -- fight where he'll literally quit in the ring after about 67 rounds. And He had a fight work on either way he'd knock my dotted out a couple of times even knock down a couple of times. You saw the bird tell fight where. Pretty much the same fight was unfolding both guys were -- each other down at every turn bottom Ortiz was able to give up. And put away or Alberto late to really get the unanimous decision victory it'll be very -- and you see how. Mayweather combats that sort of pressure fight and if Ortiz can dictate that fight on his terms. You go to the flip side you've got the third fight between Pacquiao and Marquez. That should be hopefully a great fight yours worry about trilogy that they're not gonna live up -- the hype released the third -- live up to the hype we've seen that the last couple years where. The fight between. Rafael Marquez one man a little brother and Israel Vasquez worth three classic fights that they take it off fourth one and that would completely deflated the whole thing. Night. The wave Marquez and Pacquiao again just seems so tailor made for each other. It has the makings of a great fight like I asked dad. Do not count -- one album one Manuel Marquez He maybe 37 but if you go back and watch that fight is Michael Katz CDs. He took his best hi John a great left talked. Put him flat on his back and He got up and over the next four rounds. For active six rounds DVD can He stopped even nine. Just completely dismantled -- CDs and it wasn't one punch He systematically broke his man down. And that just comes with the experience the Marquez has earned over his long career by going up against somebody like Pacquiao who is now. Not just of the one punch fighter that He was before He can move He can slide and tactically. Manny Pacquiao is probably one of the best ring generals. There we've seen in boxing delete it in this generation if not in the last 2535. Years -- and about going to be great fights thanks so much for joining me for this initial podcast coming off the bench. I'm -- and -- you can follow me on Twitter at. Had -- Higgins and you can also look me up on the fans FaceBook page and catch me every day from eleven to three right here on ESPN's Sports Radio 1080 the fan.
