Join us next on the guild of mortgage hotline as -- -- -- -- football x.s and -- geeks should know end really interesting stuff he's got the number one football book right now on Amazon.com. It's the essential Smart football the name of the book and his website is appropriately titled Smart football dot com Chris Brown. Joins us now Chris how you don't. Doing great thanks for having me on. You've kind of treated like a one stop shop for football x.s and those nerds here -- -- football dot com. Well let that at least part of it go today you know I got to coaches read Meehan and and a lot of friends in the coaching business but you know trying to sort of bridge the gap is sort of the general and threatened and then. Get them to learn a little more about what goes on behind the game. Woods it's funny that I played in the late ninety's and the spread was just kind of starting to creep in even -- -- we saw some elements of it. Started to kind of take hold but when was it that day. Kind of -- era of the spread football game really came in to play in the world the college football. Well they're probably gonna -- living in the late nineties you saw it happening I mean you look at. You know even teams when -- for the Washington State you know they were one team you talk Purdue in the late ninety's and early 2000 Drew Brees. And joke -- and then. You know Mike Leach is now Washington State was opposite corner Kentucky and how money and they were around at TC. But I think that that sort of a modern spread really sort of exploded in and it took on new form. So what Rich Rodriguez of it bears on it was doing. Clinton and in the game I was -- That sort of just changed the whole. Term direction of college football was. When northwestern. Beat Michigan they -- 2000 and you know 54 to 51. And what was. Crazy about it one Michigan you know they were they were good good team they weren't you know I upgraded to an -- -- But you know you can't spread teams like you know Brees of Purdue it they've got pro for a million yards well yeah I hadn't seen was. Northwestern. Played Michigan and had 600 and something yards of offense. And ran for 300 and the idea that you can take you know the old school Michigan you know. How big time. NFL guys and to run the ball 300 yards and think. Every high school and college coaches thought you know hey you know on the run -- your -- sort of target. And but I can run of law and spread it out. That the -- -- And and they've really changed the dynamic could afford any thought you know hey and you need thought it would -- -- news. You know -- remorse ready to get past acting team are enacting those I think that would that would change direction. Our philosophy was as we can't beach eleven on eleven but if we spread you out we don't need to -- to eleven on eleven we just need one of our guys to be able to be one of your guys. And it was and still isn't some extent the ultimate equalizer. No I think that's right and an end -- you know and I think. What -- for the rapping -- -- you know handful of years was. It was -- equalize Purdue could now spread out Ohio State -- Michigan and Clinton could do that. You know after awhile when the the big time schools are out state and Florida's. And it started going to spread it well you know they are more about spreading out. You know Percy Harvey and there are some kind of you know future NFL guy the defense has gotten better it's -- match -- the so that people can actually sort of go back a little bit in the other direction at. You know with with more our formations and and tight end and he's back but with sort of spread shotgun element that it right now we're kind of edited using mixed. Yet it is weird because you know the spread was all the rage in and it still isn't some extent but you have seen Texas go away from that you -- Alabama go away from a little bit -- -- kind of that hybrid you're talking about. What is kind of the next is easy Chip Kelly and organ is that the next evolution this kind of that the no huddle aspect of the boat where do we go from here. Well I think we can Kelly's death leaving got to but he chip I mean what he's done. Is. Extremely impressive I think within it -- that would have been asking questions Reggie is their opponents -- compared attract the -- And -- -- went through that next evolution you know Rich Rodriguez is -- no auto run first run off and stuff in the late ninety's you know at -- and stuff but. You know chip sort of taken that the no huddle aspect -- like another level they go so fast then and the way I was -- With Chip Kelly is in Oregon and it is they're not an -- officer in the huddle program like you know they run their. -- weight room -- -- they run their tigers know until everything is go go go go go and I think with the pressure on the defense and then he would. Have gone beyond just you know I'll just do his own read it read that these incidents are they actually read. Anyone on the GDP as a defensive front they can you know have different blocking -- -- no huddle environments so. I think at the big thing even do that NFL now Tom Brady and those guys there and you know they're running more and more from the no huddle and just to put pressure on the defense. We're talking like Chris Brown Smart football dot com you mentioned the NFL and while you are seen aspects of it. Creep into the NFL there is that notion that you lead athletes stop the spread. You don't wanna get your quarterback hurt you can't leave NFL defensive ends. I'm blocked it in and read them -- on too many snaps that they'll chase the plays down. Is is it that that holds this back from the NFL -- is there another element they kinda keeps this. College centric and and keeps it from sweeping NFL like it has college football. Well -- are dependent and put them to death and correct it and -- technical make a lot of money. But. I think there's a few things that probably haven't sort of -- the NFL back at you think. In college in in high school to -- have more teams the year more into experimenting on that at BYU you know -- back that early eighties and stuff I mean. All the big schools were just running -- him down your throat but we have to be different -- only 32 and a belt in the Serb government Ernie -- -- helping him. You know that there's not much incentive for those guys to. To completely do something different and obviously you know there's. Sort of peer pressure to do something different to fail to lose your job. There are also other Smart to different in the NFL. You know would be the ball basically in the middle of field the entire game whereas in college and high school you know you can do a lot of perimeter -- collateral -- trying to -- -- -- -- left right it is -- I kind of don't put a lot -- happen on the other hand proved it in the putting because. Defense coordinator in the NF NFL you know usually set your defense of front one where the other they don't always have their front of the the strength of the formation -- in college. You'll see a lot of these offenses in the first set to -- the strength -- the formation like it got extra blockers and tight end to one side they only set. It towards the wide side of the field. So so there is that is a real different than even I admit they connect the screen and rules are different. In college C so many screens tend to -- to -- teams. And out. The -- of different in the pros and approach any sort past deep pocket guys downfield pass interference even the ball behind the line college. He drove aren't lying on my timing can -- ten yards down field in the receiver blocking him. And I think the screen game kind of makes the spread -- little easier and then I mean the last thing it is. India have quarterback that can do -- -- saying how valuable those quarterbacks were gonna get hurt I do think with. We've argued period even Andrew Luck is a lot better than people think so he won't be like a true spread -- would you know with potentially could be seeing some changes but. What to say -- -- direction but it won't be seeing an idea. Any Chip Kelly in the market we don't. And I -- you have to believe though that if he -- got there he's Smart enough to realize the you have to evolved -- heat you can't take the organ offense as is included in the NFL what did defense is done. To adjust to this or they still behind the curve quite a bit when it comes to to dealing with the last decade of college football the spread offenses. Well I think if you look at the numbers you would say that they're there behind the curve. And I think in I was you know look at -- -- well. Mean this sort of murderer's row often coaches in different style. You know whether it leads or even just for the direction or calendar West Coast pro style system you know it is tough week in week out the big well one or -- It's just brutal but they thought their kids adapting and I think. Probably the guy who's who's who's you know Don -- that -- and it sort of it's better equipped out of that town that is Nick Saban and Alabama. Could relate to spread present a tough problem. You know idea. How is it then. Four receiver who could run immediately down field. Split sort of you're your your defense and catch either quicker. But then also the quarterback runners that you lose guys in the box to defend Iran. And and that just a real problem for teams and how do you you know you go to say you they run the ball you don't want to -- either throw it. -- Any government that the players but he's he's better they have failed to do it a little -- -- a pattern match and and whatever he can. He can meet. Numbers -- numbers. An and I actually the other thing is that you've seen more hybrid there's the sense that you know you Gary -- TCU runs. Fortune five -- sort of a nickel defense. All the time. They get Arizona kept festivities and what coordinator directory trees are. And India are even nowadays. -- they run report for three but really they use nickel happy game and and maybe that he's president of the linebackers really more hybrid guy. I think that that is the dictator I think you'll see that all these sentences. In my -- -- three or 34 or really. Are not a traditional ones as the guy in -- do multiple things in -- they can cover that can run back and and how you deal with. Spread plot is that sort of put more aptly there. He's name is Chris Brown in the website Smart football dot com -- book the essential Smart football encourage anyone that wants to have a better understanding of offense defense is the game of football in general coaches out there it's a great. Great resource for that and we appreciate taken a couple of minutes force Chris. As it is my pleasure.