Joining us now on the -- mortgage mobile hot line has promised is the athletic director Dorgan rob Mullins man heartbreaker last night on. I -- tackle a tough one but what a great season what a great job back towards staff and student athletes and for those who were here it really well. Is -- -- -- -- some of label that many shots and that the organic go to -- that started with a third base side do on the got to first base side of the ducks India -- Pretty credible. We have great fans not if you read it if you guys have made it to the calls for a series. Is that a money making venture army would the government money for the program. Not -- not not in -- out of Iraq and because the NBA only. Provides the opportunity to travel within a certain number what I believe is 35 and obviously we probably would've taken more than thirty. I've given -- managers and trainers and others to. Who dedicate a lot of our supporters took it probably a direct -- costs us money but what it -- for the program the terms of recruiting and in terms of our brand with a spring -- have crossed all of our sports. You know those intangible things our deficit art -- necessarily measurable. Hump so overall we would have loved to have made that trip. Is telling bowl games in -- And a is it in US here this is it true can you say definitively that you know athletic success of the -- football baseball whatever equals increased enrollment. Well I can never say that would definitive success but I haven't done the research that. I can certainly tell you that went out mountain about. Weren't prompted -- whether to Heathrow airport in London mirror at JFK in New York City or. Wherever it might be you know there's go duck everywhere when you're walking around so -- I think it does is as successful athletic. Certainly provides a window. Through which he can see the university. And I think what they finally take -- deeper look at organizes this special places great community great state and a great institution. So I think it plays a role I do think there is some correlation. Exactly how to measure that aperture. We have to a toward -- he talked about just a few into the big time program when he was at cal state. Kind of have hinted. All I guess in a smoking -- it and when is it org and you get all the resource is that you could want. Walked me through the process of of and I know you weren't there at the inception of this but. How does an athletic department it on a sport that is gonna generate money walking through the process of of saint -- were gonna commit. X millions of dollars and were gonna build this and we're gonna build this facility were gonna build this team through that process and why it happens. Well I that you're right I wasn't here but I can tell you that if you're gonna have appeared you know at the sport of baseball in the pac. Well you better be serious about -- or -- didn't go through the effort because pac twelve baseball is some of the best in the in the country and over the last several years maybe ten. 1215 years. College Baseball has become a high level minor leagues baseball you know now that you take a look at it follow some of these top players in the draft. -- did that go play College Baseball do you find them in the major leagues in -- -- sort Oreo one on the West Coast would be Buster Posey that people would be familiar with. That's a quick rise so if you're gonna bring back the sport and be serious about it it would be unfair. At a sport like baseball and Oregon and the pac twelve and not be serious about it so what they went about this today what does it -- to compete. And what it takes is a a great ballpark. An elite coach. And an operating -- budget that allows you to attract. Equality assistants that allows you to get on the road and recruit was some of the best programs in the country and that that's a statement. Quite frankly the return is really amazing to think of where we were last night in our -- Year of the program have been back it would be stopped and really reflect on now. It's amazing. That does that programming many. Now not yet. You know it can't overcome. We've got eight suites that are sold out we've got. You know a lot of say did you solve the outfield got a great radio. I progress -- but what do you need to really extra logistically donations. And -- ticket sales. And I would -- the last two weeks into pregnancy regionally and -- super regional. Big College Baseball fans in the baseball community well. They got a chance. To be exposed to something it's really unique. And hopefully that spoke to got it -- 48 almost forty not a hundred people here last. So all the fire Marshal walking nervously along the concourse and was moving in an opposite direction he would open. You know we'd love cabinet many people in there because it. Odds -- that some people got to experience they've provided different government different atmosphere. And I would hope that that will. Because people come up for pac twelve baseball and you're during the regular season. This is that organ athletic director rob Mullins with -- us here on the stand are also live on Comcast sports net. That's you know it's an arms race you know it's tough -- -- you guys have done a great job at their facilities not just baseball but obviously football. In in that arms race schools you know now to -- new TV deal schools in the pac twelve are beefing up facilities in their trying to catch up -- -- How do you stay ahead. Well you know one of the things that we did. Thanks to the vision of actual committee and others is you know they solve this coming and they saw this. TV deal coming in. We were a little bit ahead of the curve in that some of the things that are paying dividends right now where investments were made a couple of years ago which is key to anybody in mind. So you know everybody else is gonna start stated we take forward a little bit we took a little bit of a risk -- got ahead of the game. And fortunately those TV deals -- -- at the level to allow us to -- -- commitments that were made. It's still actually think palatable -- college World Series right now yet Stony Brook. And technically the they hit parity is is is a year it did not only here in men's basketball. I'll -- especially here based on a number of other sports. You know -- You have to be a little bit forward thinking and -- wives and around so our our job now is give it to that momentum -- -- -- -- ahead. -- -- parity this year it is in all fairness though when you look at. The top programs in the country across the board just athletic programs. There is a direct correlation between what you spend what you bring in and the success you have on the field. And you guys certainly have a big time operating budget you guys are right up there with with some of the -- at the top schools in the country now in and you know some people would say that you know that's that's the main reason for your success. Absolutely I could not argue that there is a correlation and we looked at the overall. Directors cup standings a couple of years ago. And what we've found was 46 of the top fifty in the overall measure of compared brought -- competitive exits 46 of the top fifty schools will be -- schools which proves the point did you just made. And gather the correlation is a dollar for dollar maybe not but. The interesting thing when you look at -- are important we're able to compete because we do you have an eighty plus million and 8586. Million dollar budget. But what's interesting is when you look at that top twenty resource programs and we're right at that you know twenty is that twentieth ranked really have a -- -- -- -- stadium. The average collectively. Football stadium capacity of those top twenty resource institutions the average student capacity 85000 and that's including. So did not do what we're doing. With the resources that we have and only a physical accurate and beating out stating that it passed out it is really remarkable. Get in the next two questions and -- enough of that group so key is. I think gonna get expanded and the second -- to that is when you're spending out of money -- of money -- having this success. Should we expect this year and in year out out of organ athletics gives you -- -- you're on a historic run right now for you guys. An incredible spring and you know yeah so fiscal sustainability is one of our challenges that it is for everybody in the country and -- collegiate athletic about it. Out of we sustain it could we complete and competitive marketplace for salaries. And number of other things that you stated -- facilities matter all those things bad out. But you have to do with and you resources. And so we're always exploring. New ways to Exco Resources 'cause we got to have the resources to meet the expectations and yet the expectation here now. Is that we compete for pactel championships and when you compete for -- championship he can compete -- Obviously proof of that you know. What track indoor champion outdoor second place and outdoor I played softball college World Series baseball super regionals meant. Golf model for me and it it's been an incredible spring. And so yes the expectations will remain. And it's our job to. You know identify the resources now. So the question of expansion is a good one and one that we need to continue to study because you know expect it also means additional debt. -- you take on that. You know you have to figure out a way to pay for it before you can even create a criminal dollars so. And the demand have to be their option is a fantastic. Atmosphere we did not do -- things. To diminish what we have right now what we have is incredible the best and a passionate fan base that makes it difficult for opposing teams. So you know we could -- determine what is the demand. And what's the -- to that it seating is general mission is that more students. And is -- reform bill that would allow us to -- it back and pay for. -- -- -- To me and well what to do some research that we're just in the second year of of -- -- -- -- back -- -- -- its -- and a -- million dollars -- -- -- that. That was a significant addition that we're trying to work your financial plan to take that all fit and we do have a plan. But we're just getting started on that in at the same time this year is going to be engaged in your gas football. We played three nonconference home games prior to the student's arrival. In those three opponents are unlikely to -- -- -- -- between -- -- -- student tickets because our students are back on campus yet. And the visiting team got taken Betty well. Have a few thousand. Single game tickets in the market place for the first three games. Adobe you know basically see if the organs and pick up those tickets and continue our sellout streak. Ranked granted to send hadn't thought about that way so do you have in your head and number. Just in your personal opinion in your informed opinion how many seats you think that that that stadium -- could have and still sell out most games. Yet no I don't have a have a sense of what we want standing room only eight have a sense what are waiting list looks like. And but I. I don't really that's really what one did hit big guessing you know I'm not like a little more firm data. I can tell you when I go out and talk to the fans. The magical number 171000 gets everybody excited. Because they feel we're right around 5850 got a big game so again could rest up to seventy. So you know I'm not sure I'd like a little more hard data we don't want it to -- overbilled. Because even if you would average 62500. You know or even basic without thousand as a record but he had. You know some number of empty -- that's what people would focus on so what we want to do is extend. On the right number and that whatever -- can't -- -- that got the right number. But make sure number one priority is to make sure that he continue to have that they had tactical to -- Our last question for you this is 88 organ rob moans I'm sure you're tired of hearing a senior you probably hear -- -- you -- it's one of those questions that you love to address. Because it's out there and that is Sox or again Phil Knight. If they didn't have film night. How much. Is it. How much does Phil -- mean what do you say to those people did you say are your success is all -- in nineteen film night. Well you need to tremendous amount to not our success as an athletic department that Philip could have been very generous. Athletic and academic they've supported a number of academic initiatives as well and they're critical to our success. -- -- Nike which unique relationship they are the single. Most influential. Company in sports. Into those who say they have an impact of arsenic they're absolutely right and I think there envious and jealous that we have a deal. -- like it. -- rob thank you very much for joining us we appreciate your time I appreciate you got me.